SORBS SPAM, do I have to bother?

[Roland Plüss-2]

I recently noticed SORBS having my IP listed. All other blacklists I'm
tracking with MXToolBox and others are fine. I never heard of SORBS nor
did I get every any rejection replies due to them. I read though lots of
bad reviews about that blacklist on the net while researching. Delisting
is also impossible.

Do I have to bother about this list or is it a crappy blacklist I should
not care about?

If I should bother how is one supposed to delist an IP if there is no
email contact and broken menus/forms?

--
Yours sincerely
Plüss Roland

Leader and Head Programmer
- Game: Epsylon ( http://www.indiedb.com/games/epsylon )
- Game Engine: Drag[en]gine ( http://www.indiedb.com/engines/dragengine
, http://dragengine.rptd.ch/wiki )
- Normal Map Generator: DENormGen ( http://epsylon.rptd.ch/denormgen.php )
- As well as various Blender export scripts und game tools

[Wietse Venema]

Roland Pl?ss:
> I recently noticed SORBS having my IP listed. All other blacklists I'm
> tracking with MXToolBox and others are fine. I never heard of SORBS nor
> did I get every any rejection replies due to them. I read though lots of
> bad reviews about that blacklist on the net while researching. Delisting
> is also impossible.
>
> Do I have to bother about this list or is it a crappy blacklist I should
> not care about?

SORBS is typically not used to veto email all by itself. That's
probably why you don't see your mail being blocked.  SORBS may be
useful in a scoring system.

        Wietse

> If I should bother how is one supposed to delist an IP if there is no
> email contact and broken menus/forms?
>
> --
> Yours sincerely
> Pl?ss Roland
>
> Leader and Head Programmer
> - Game: Epsylon ( http://www.indiedb.com/games/epsylon )
> - Game Engine: Drag[en]gine ( http://www.indiedb.com/engines/dragengine
> , http://dragengine.rptd.ch/wiki )
> - Normal Map Generator: DENormGen ( http://epsylon.rptd.ch/denormgen.php )
> - As well as various Blender export scripts und game tools
>

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[Michael J Wise]

On Jan 13, 2014, at 5:30 AM, Wietse Venema wrote:

> Roland Pl?ss:
>> I recently noticed SORBS having my IP listed. All other blacklists I'm
>> tracking with MXToolBox and others are fine. I never heard of SORBS nor
>> did I get every any rejection replies due to them. I read though lots of
>> bad reviews about that blacklist on the net while researching. Delisting
>> is also impossible.
>>
>> Do I have to bother about this list or is it a crappy blacklist I should
>> not care about?
>
> SORBS is typically not used to veto email all by itself. That's
> probably why you don't see your mail being blocked.  SORBS may be
> useful in a scoring system.

You should care.
If your IP is listed, it means that mail is going somewhere it shouldn't, typically due to a purchased, dirty list.
If SORBS lists you … others will probably follow in time.

>> If I should bother how is one supposed to delist an IP if there is no
>> email contact and broken menus/forms?

The more painful listings auto-expire after 48 hours of no new abusive traffic.

Aloha,
Michael.
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 and Usenet Registration handy..."

[LunarZone]

Sorbs can be devilish.... and you should be concerned. My first question to you
though is do you have a signup process and does it have a captcha? If you do
and do not include a captcha, you should first resolve that by installing a captcha.
Most likely sorbs will say that they have an email that proves that you have
spammed. But they use some underhanded methods for actually putting you into
a spam trap, and then place the blame on you. Personally I think you should do
everything you can to clear your "web name" from this list, the longer you are
listed the better the chance of another service jumping on the GET YOU spamwagon!

Review the delisting page:
http://www.sorbs.net/delisting/overview.shtml

Create an account:
http://www.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/support
and thus a support ticket regarding your IP address, BE NICE but use wisdom,
and no matter how long it goes on, keep your cool!

[Tõnu Samuel]

On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 19:53 -0800, LunarZone wrote:

> Sorbs can be devilish.... and you should be concerned. My first question to
> you
> though is do you have a signup process and does it have a captcha? If you do
> and do not include a captcha, you should first resolve that by installing a
> captcha.
> Most likely sorbs will say that they have an email that proves that you have
> spammed. But they use some underhanded methods for actually putting you into
> a spam trap, and then place the blame on you. Personally I think you should
> do
> everything you can to clear your "web name" from this list, the longer you
> are
> listed the better the chance of another service jumping on the GET YOU
> spamwagon!
>
> Review the delisting page:
> http://www.sorbs.net/delisting/overview.shtml
>
> Create an account:
> http://www.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/support
> and thus a support ticket regarding your IP address, BE NICE but use wisdom,
> and no matter how long it goes on, keep your cool!

And how this is related to Postfix?

  Tõnu

[Roland Plüss-2]

On 01/13/2014 03:25 PM, The Doctor wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 02:10:31PM +0100, Roland Plüss wrote:
>> I recently noticed SORBS having my IP listed. All other blacklists I'm
>> tracking with MXToolBox and others are fine. I never heard of SORBS nor
>> did I get every any rejection replies due to them. I read though lots of
>> bad reviews about that blacklist on the net while researching. Delisting
>> is also impossible.
>>
>> Do I have to bother about this list or is it a crappy blacklist I should
>> not care about?
>>
>> If I should bother how is one supposed to delist an IP if there is no
>> email contact and broken menus/forms?
>>
> Please do.
>
> This is NOT good news.

I really hate it if people directly quote stuff to me instead of to the

mailing list. So here is the post.

Comments about this statement? Opinions about this statement?

--
Yours sincerely
Plüss Roland

Leader and Head Programmer
- Game: Epsylon ( http://www.indiedb.com/games/epsylon )
- Game Engine: Drag[en]gine ( http://www.indiedb.com/engines/dragengine
, http://dragengine.rptd.ch/wiki )
- Normal Map Generator: DENormGen ( http://epsylon.rptd.ch/denormgen.php )
- As well as various Blender export scripts und game tools

[Ralf Hildebrandt-2]

* Roland Plüss <[hidden email]>:

> >> Do I have to bother about this list or is it a crappy blacklist I should
> >> not care about?

I personally don't see rejections based on this.

mail.python.org got listed once for "spamming". Looking at the
evidence I found that somebody subscribed (using double opt in) and
subsequently receieved what he/she subscribed for. And then, somehow,
this was supposed to be spam. I then challenged the listing, nothing
happened. Nobody contacted me, nobody delisted anything.

Just let SORBS slip into obscurity.

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