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distribution issues with Postfix

Phil Howard-12
I am finally putting together a test mail server (something I wish I
had when putting together the first mail server, but lack of hardware
due to lack of funding flow limited that).  But now I have another
machine.

But I am still seeing all the issues I had before with Ubuntu.  At
first I tried to install an identical Ubuntu system as before (based
on 9.10 because that was current at the time of the first mail
server).  Most of the issues are related to packaging (for example,
cannot uninstall a package because one of the config files it's trying
to delete does not exist ... touched it to make it exist and then it
happily removes the package).

Anyway ... I am considering expediting a switch to another
distribution.  Or maybe just the latest version of Ubuntu.
Personally, I favor Slackware, since it is friendlier to installing
packages from upstream source (so I have the latest version).  But I
will need to make a justification to management to add Slackware to
our mix (which is currently Centos, Debian, Fedora, and Ubuntu).

I want to get away from "hand holding" distribution packaging systems
... too many bruises on my hands from that.

What I'd like to find out is what are known issues Postfix has with
these or other distributions (even if, and especially if, the
distribution itself is the cause of the issue).  Also, does anyone
know a general rough estimate of the proportions of existing
distribution deployments to host Postfix?  What distributions do the
heavier Postfix admins use?  FYI, BSD is not ruled out, either.

This will be with Dovecot as the IMAP end.

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Jeroen Geilman
On 07/07/2010 05:25 PM, Phil Howard wrote:

> I am finally putting together a test mail server (something I wish I
> had when putting together the first mail server, but lack of hardware
> due to lack of funding flow limited that).  But now I have another
> machine.
>
> But I am still seeing all the issues I had before with Ubuntu.  At
> first I tried to install an identical Ubuntu system as before (based
> on 9.10 because that was current at the time of the first mail
> server).  Most of the issues are related to packaging (for example,
> cannot uninstall a package because one of the config files it's trying
> to delete does not exist ... touched it to make it exist and then it
> happily removes the package).
>    

Bla bla bla.. unrelated to postfix.

> Anyway ... I am considering expediting a switch to another
> distribution.  Or maybe just the latest version of Ubuntu.
> Personally, I favor Slackware, since it is friendlier to installing
> packages from upstream source (so I have the latest version).  But I
> will need to make a justification to management to add Slackware to
> our mix (which is currently Centos, Debian, Fedora, and Ubuntu).
>
>    

More bla bla bla.. unrelated to postfix.

> I want to get away from "hand holding" distribution packaging systems
> ... too many bruises on my hands from that.
>
> What I'd like to find out is what are known issues Postfix has with
> these or other distributions (even if, and especially if, the
> distribution itself is the cause of the issue).  Also, does anyone
> know a general rough estimate of the proportions of existing
> distribution deployments to host Postfix?  What distributions do the
> heavier Postfix admins use?  FYI, BSD is not ruled out, either.
>
>    

I would suggest using a distribution or OS that allows you to configure
postfix properly.

Anything that interferes with that is not worth the effort.

Regardless, no specific distribution will be supported here.

If there are any known gotchas with specific OSes, these will be noted
in the documentation where applicable.


> This will be with Dovecot as the IMAP end.
>
>    

Again, utterly not postfix related.

J.
(I'll be mogadored if I can find a postfix question anywhere in there)

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Phil Howard-12
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:48, Jeroen Geilman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I would suggest using a distribution or OS that allows you to configure
> postfix properly.

Name it.


> Anything that interferes with that is not worth the effort.

Which do you use?


> Regardless, no specific distribution will be supported here.

Maybe if you had read the background information instead of going bla
bla bla you would have understood what the purpose of all this is.
Who better to know what OS/distro works better with Postfix that those
who actually use it?


> If there are any known gotchas with specific OSes, these will be noted in
> the documentation where applicable.

Does that include things like easier to maintain Postfix? ... doesn't
interfere with Postfix?  How about a summary?


>> This will be with Dovecot as the IMAP end.
>>
>>
>
> Again, utterly not postfix related.

Actually, it is related.  But apparently you probably figure that if
anything involves 2 or more pieces of software, it's only related to
the other pieces (whichever they happen to be).


> (I'll be mogadored if I can find a postfix question anywhere in there)

Why did you bother responding if you have such a narrow view that you
cannot see it?  Do you actually like to show off how arrogant you can
be?

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Charles Marcus
On 2010-07-07 2:02 PM, Phil Howard wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:48, Jeroen Geilman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I would suggest using a distribution or OS that allows you to configure
>> postfix properly.

> Name it.

All of them?

>> Anything that interferes with that is not worth the effort.

> Which do you use?

Gentoo...

>> Regardless, no specific distribution will be supported here.

> Who better to know what OS/distro works better with Postfix that those
> who actually use it?

It is a meaningless question. They all work equally well, as long as you
know how to configure it within the confines of the OS you are working with.

And it is usually best to go first to the support list for the OS you
are using to ask questions, to make sure the problem isn't due to some
OS and/or packaging quirk/customization, and only come here once you've
determined the problem is likely a basic (or advanced) postfix config issue.

>> If there are any known gotchas with specific OSes, these will be noted in
>> the documentation where applicable.

> Does that include things like easier to maintain Postfix? ... doesn't
> interfere with Postfix?  How about a summary?

Do you seriously expect a meaningful answer to such a broad question on
a mail list?

Ok, well, if you must have an answer, it is 42.

http://tinyurl.com/2e3fbgf

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Phil Howard-12
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 14:30, Charles Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 2010-07-07 2:02 PM, Phil Howard wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:48, Jeroen Geilman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> I would suggest using a distribution or OS that allows you to configure
>>> postfix properly.
>
>> Name it.
>
> All of them?

No.  Clearly not the case.  Ubuntu is an example which interferes with
Postfix.  I'm trying to determine if others are more or less so.  I
suspect at least some surely must be less so.


>>> Anything that interferes with that is not worth the effort.
>
>> Which do you use?
>
> Gentoo...

OK.  I'll include that in consideration.


>>> Regardless, no specific distribution will be supported here.
>
>> Who better to know what OS/distro works better with Postfix that those
>> who actually use it?
>
> It is a meaningless question. They all work equally well, as long as you
> know how to configure it within the confines of the OS you are working with.
>
> And it is usually best to go first to the support list for the OS you
> are using to ask questions, to make sure the problem isn't due to some
> OS and/or packaging quirk/customization, and only come here once you've
> determined the problem is likely a basic (or advanced) postfix config issue.

Ubuntu works reasonably OK with everything else I've used on it.
Problem exist with Postfix on it.  They've said to address it with
Postfix.  I personally think the specific problems are more of how
Ubuntu handles Postfix poorly.  One issue (which may be part of the
problem) is the Postfix package in Ubuntu being an older one.


>>> If there are any known gotchas with specific OSes, these will be noted in
>>> the documentation where applicable.
>
>> Does that include things like easier to maintain Postfix? ... doesn't
>> interfere with Postfix?  How about a summary?
>
> Do you seriously expect a meaningful answer to such a broad question on
> a mail list?

Where's the Postfix support web forum, then?  Since the mailing list
is the only real place with lost of Postfix experts, this must be the
place.

My question is a question about using Postfix.  I thought this was the
postfix-users mailing list.  Or did my subscription get crosswired to
the postfix-developers mailing list?


> Ok, well, if you must have an answer, it is 42.

Oh, I thought you were saying it was Gentoo.

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Scott Kitterman-4
On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 14:42:29 Phil Howard wrote:
 
> Ubuntu works reasonably OK with everything else I've used on it.
> Problem exist with Postfix on it.  They've said to address it with
> Postfix.  I personally think the specific problems are more of how
> Ubuntu handles Postfix poorly.  One issue (which may be part of the
> problem) is the Postfix package in Ubuntu being an older one.

No.  It really doesn't.  If you don't understand how to use your distro
package management system, you should seek help in a distro specific venue.


Scott K
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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Joe-274
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Phil Howard wrote:
>
> No.  Clearly not the case.  Ubuntu is an example which interferes with
> Postfix.  I'm trying to determine if others are more or less so.  I
> suspect at least some surely must be less so.
>  

No FUD please. I've deployed smtp servers running hpux, solaris,
slackware, redhat, fedora, SuSE, debian, ubuntu and others - as someone
just pointed out, having some knowledge of the platform you're running
postfix on is rather important.

I currently run a number of production mail servers on ubuntu LTS and
have never seen any of the problems you're struggling with.

Joe

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Phil Howard-12
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 15:00, Scott Kitterman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 14:42:29 Phil Howard wrote:
>
>> Ubuntu works reasonably OK with everything else I've used on it.
>> Problem exist with Postfix on it.  They've said to address it with
>> Postfix.  I personally think the specific problems are more of how
>> Ubuntu handles Postfix poorly.  One issue (which may be part of the
>> problem) is the Postfix package in Ubuntu being an older one.
>
> No.  It really doesn't.  If you don't understand how to use your distro
> package management system, you should seek help in a distro specific venue.

BTDT.  They say it's not a distro specific issue.  I don't know if I
agree with them or not.  But I am considering abandoning that distro.
If Postfix people's experience was that the distro does not have such
issues with Postfix, then it might be worthwhile pursuing that issue
with them (the distro people) further.  Quite possibly it is the
person who makes the Postfix package not doing thing right with
respect to either Postfix and/or Ubuntu.

But I might also seek another distro.  It has already been said here
that I should run the latest version of Postfix.  That would be
compiling from source since the latest is not packaged in the distro.
In general, that's not a problem.  But it is to a certain degree a
problem in some distros (and why this is, certainly is not a Postfix
issue ... I have experienced the problem with other than Postfix).
I'm just saying that so you know why I'm also looking away from Ubuntu
(please do not assume I am asking you to fix those Ubuntu issues).

How about simply, which distro various Postfix users are running?

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Gary Chambers-2
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> No.  Clearly not the case.  Ubuntu is an example which interferes with
> Postfix.  I'm trying to determine if others are more or less so.  I
> suspect at least some surely must be less so.

Why not simply avoid whatever hassles you're encountering with your
distribution's version of the software and compile your own?  I'd like
PostgreSQL support in Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, but I didn't come to
the list to ask for it.

-- Gary Chambers

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Phil Howard-12
In reply to this post by Joe-274
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 15:11, Joe <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I currently run a number of production mail servers on ubuntu LTS and
> have never seen any of the problems you're struggling with.

Are you using the packaged version of Postfix, or the source you
compile yourself?

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Phil Howard-12
In reply to this post by Gary Chambers-2
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 15:14, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> No.  Clearly not the case.  Ubuntu is an example which interferes with
>> Postfix.  I'm trying to determine if others are more or less so.  I
>> suspect at least some surely must be less so.
>
> Why not simply avoid whatever hassles you're encountering with your
> distribution's version of the software and compile your own?  I'd like
> PostgreSQL support in Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, but I didn't come to
> the list to ask for it.

Compiling my own is indeed an option.  But to get there, I have to
make the commitment to jump distributions (because of distribution
specific issues that are not Postfix specific).  The question (not to
this list ... one I have to find the answer to, which is going to
involve collecting information from a number of sources) is whether
that approach will involve the least issues compared to other
approaches (such as staying with this distro, or using another, etc).

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OFFLIST - Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Scott Kitterman-4
In reply to this post by Phil Howard-12
On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 15:13:00 Phil Howard wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 15:00, Scott Kitterman <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 14:42:29 Phil Howard wrote:
> >> Ubuntu works reasonably OK with everything else I've used on it.
> >> Problem exist with Postfix on it.  They've said to address it with
> >> Postfix.  I personally think the specific problems are more of how
> >> Ubuntu handles Postfix poorly.  One issue (which may be part of the
> >> problem) is the Postfix package in Ubuntu being an older one.
> >
> > No.  It really doesn't.  If you don't understand how to use your distro
> > package management system, you should seek help in a distro specific
> > venue.
>
> BTDT.  They say it's not a distro specific issue.  I don't know if I
> agree with them or not.  But I am considering abandoning that distro.
> If Postfix people's experience was that the distro does not have such
> issues with Postfix, then it might be worthwhile pursuing that issue
> with them (the distro people) further.  Quite possibly it is the
> person who makes the Postfix package not doing thing right with
> respect to either Postfix and/or Ubuntu.
>
> But I might also seek another distro.  It has already been said here
> that I should run the latest version of Postfix.  That would be
> compiling from source since the latest is not packaged in the distro.
> In general, that's not a problem.  But it is to a certain degree a
> problem in some distros (and why this is, certainly is not a Postfix
> issue ... I have experienced the problem with other than Postfix).
> I'm just saying that so you know why I'm also looking away from Ubuntu
> (please do not assume I am asking you to fix those Ubuntu issues).
>
> How about simply, which distro various Postfix users are running?

Who is "They" and what exactly is the issue?

In addition to running a number of mail servers with Postfix on Ubuntu, I'm
also an Ubuntu developer and I can look into it.

Scott K
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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Scott Kitterman-4
In reply to this post by Gary Chambers-2
On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 15:14:08 Gary Chambers wrote:
> > No.  Clearly not the case.  Ubuntu is an example which interferes with
> > Postfix.  I'm trying to determine if others are more or less so.  I
> > suspect at least some surely must be less so.
>
> Why not simply avoid whatever hassles you're encountering with your
> distribution's version of the software and compile your own?  I'd like
> PostgreSQL support in Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, but I didn't come to
> the list to ask for it.
>
Just so the archives have the correct information about this:

sudo apt-get install postfix-pgsql

is all that's needed for PostgreSQL support in Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS.

Scott K
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Re: OFFLIST (or not) - Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Scott Kitterman-4
In reply to this post by Scott Kitterman-4
On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 15:22:22 Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 15:13:00 Phil Howard wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 15:00, Scott Kitterman <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> > > On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 14:42:29 Phil Howard wrote:
> > >> Ubuntu works reasonably OK with everything else I've used on it.
> > >> Problem exist with Postfix on it.  They've said to address it with
> > >> Postfix.  I personally think the specific problems are more of how
> > >> Ubuntu handles Postfix poorly.  One issue (which may be part of the
> > >> problem) is the Postfix package in Ubuntu being an older one.
> > >
> > > No.  It really doesn't.  If you don't understand how to use your distro
> > > package management system, you should seek help in a distro specific
> > > venue.
> >
> > BTDT.  They say it's not a distro specific issue.  I don't know if I
> > agree with them or not.  But I am considering abandoning that distro.
> > If Postfix people's experience was that the distro does not have such
> > issues with Postfix, then it might be worthwhile pursuing that issue
> > with them (the distro people) further.  Quite possibly it is the
> > person who makes the Postfix package not doing thing right with
> > respect to either Postfix and/or Ubuntu.
> >
> > But I might also seek another distro.  It has already been said here
> > that I should run the latest version of Postfix.  That would be
> > compiling from source since the latest is not packaged in the distro.
> > In general, that's not a problem.  But it is to a certain degree a
> > problem in some distros (and why this is, certainly is not a Postfix
> > issue ... I have experienced the problem with other than Postfix).
> > I'm just saying that so you know why I'm also looking away from Ubuntu
> > (please do not assume I am asking you to fix those Ubuntu issues).
> >
> > How about simply, which distro various Postfix users are running?
>
> Who is "They" and what exactly is the issue?
>
> In addition to running a number of mail servers with Postfix on Ubuntu, I'm
> also an Ubuntu developer and I can look into it.
>
> Scott K

My apologies.  I intended that to be sent offlist.

Scott K
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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Joe-274
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Phil Howard wrote:
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 15:11, Joe [hidden email] wrote:

  
I currently run a number of production mail servers on ubuntu LTS and
have never seen any of the problems you're struggling with.
    

Are you using the packaged version of Postfix, or the source you
compile yourself?
  

I almost never install tarballs, but prefer to take the time to find or make a deb package if at all possible, because of the manageability added by the packaging system.

The stock postfix package included with ubuntu has worked well for me, no surprises, no problems, either with the postfix 2.5.1 package that came with ubuntu 8.04, or the postfix 2.7.0 package that came with ubuntu 10.04.

It shouldn't be too much trouble to build a package of say 2.7.0 from 10.04, for installation in a 8.04 system. There are also repositories with ready-to-install, newer versions  of postfix, if you need  them.

BTW it's best to use one of the currently supported LTS server versions which I mentioned above, rather than a release like 9.10.

Joe







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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Jeroen Geilman
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On 07/07/2010 08:02 PM, Phil Howard wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:48, Jeroen Geilman<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>    
>> I would suggest using a distribution or OS that allows you to configure
>> postfix properly.
>>      
> Name it.
>    

Okay, I may have been baiting a bit there.
The obvious inference is that you need to know your distro in order to
be able to do anything useful with it.
If that causes issues, that distribution's support is your first port of
call, NOT a distribution-agnostic support list.

If you have sufficient knowledge of your chosen distribution, postfix
works fine on any distro.

>> Anything that interferes with that is not worth the effort.
>>      
> Which do you use?
>
>    

I use Ubuntu; I like the packaging methodology, and it saves me time
with respect to upgrades and dependencies.
However, I do not use any dpkg configuration that comes with it.
I read the *postfix* documentation for any issues I have, and I don't
demand that the postfix documentation offers fill-in-the-blanks
solutions for issues raised by the distribution I use.


>> Regardless, no specific distribution will be supported here.
>>      
> Maybe if you had read the background information instead of going bla
> bla bla you would have understood what the purpose of all this is.
> Who better to know what OS/distro works better with Postfix that those
> who actually use it?
>
>
>    

I did not see any background information related to postfix.

Perhaps if you, instead, had asked a postfix-related question, such as a
specific issue you were having, then it could be answered in a
distribution-agnostic way.


>> If there are any known gotchas with specific OSes, these will be noted in
>> the documentation where applicable.
>>      
> Does that include things like easier to maintain Postfix? ... doesn't
> interfere with Postfix?  How about a summary?
>
>
>    
No, it includes specific incompatibilties or things you might need to be
aware of.
Note that for the purposes of such documentation, "Linux" is one OS.

>>> This will be with Dovecot as the IMAP end.
>>>
>>>        
>> Again, utterly not postfix related.
>>      
> Actually, it is related.  But apparently you probably figure that if
> anything involves 2 or more pieces of software, it's only related to
> the other pieces (whichever they happen to be).
>
>
>    
No, dovecot is an IMAP server with SASL capabilities.
Neither involve postfix directly.

>> (I'll be mogadored if I can find a postfix question anywhere in there)
>>      
> Why did you bother responding if you have such a narrow view that you
> cannot see it?  Do you actually like to show off how arrogant you can
> be?
>    

There was, simply, no postfix-specific question in your post.
I could replace every mention of the word "postfix" with "emacs", and it
would come out exactly the same.

J.

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

markus reichelt-3
* Jeroen Geilman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> >Why did you bother responding if you have such a narrow view that you
> >cannot see it?  Do you actually like to show off how arrogant you can
> >be?
> There was, simply, no postfix-specific question in your post

Agreed.


> I could replace every mention of the word "postfix" with "emacs",
> and it would come out exactly the same.

Ohhh, but the replies would have been very, very different ;-)


I can only vouch for postfix on slackware. I admin a few machines,
both private and work related. it just works for me. YMMV. postfix
versions 2.6.x (sasl configs via cyrus, +tls) and slackware 12.2 up
to and including 13.1. average mailings vary from 1k to up to 25k per
day, users vary from 4 to 37 per setup atm.

ALso, I can only stress what has been said already: get your distro
shit together; go along with your hunch about slackware, ask
slackware specific questions on a slackware mailinglist/usenet group,
and post postfix problems (which you researched yourself but couldnt
solve on your own) in here.

that said ... enjoy the view.

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

Phil Howard-12
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 08:30, Jeroen Geilman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, I may have been baiting a bit there.
> The obvious inference is that you need to know your distro in order to be
> able to do anything useful with it.
> If that causes issues, that distribution's support is your first port of
> call, NOT a distribution-agnostic support list.
>
> If you have sufficient knowledge of your chosen distribution, postfix works
> fine on any distro.

What you are suggesting is a level of distribution knowledge beyond
what an administrator-user would normally know.  The level needed for
this would be distribution package maintainer level.  I'm not a
distribution package maintainer and do not feel I need to become that.

This is strictly an interaction issue between component A and
component B ... where in this case one of them is Postfix.  And what I
asked about was multiple instances of the component that is not
Postfix, which means Postfix is the common element across all
relations in the map.


> I use Ubuntu; I like the packaging methodology, and it saves me time with
> respect to upgrades and dependencies.
> However, I do not use any dpkg configuration that comes with it.
> I read the *postfix* documentation for any issues I have, and I don't demand
> that the postfix documentation offers fill-in-the-blanks solutions for
> issues raised by the distribution I use.

So I'll take your answer to my question as "I suggest Ubuntu which has
worked fine for me".


> I did not see any background information related to postfix.

Background is for perspective.  You should read it as such.


> Perhaps if you, instead, had asked a postfix-related question, such as a
> specific issue you were having, then it could be answered in a
> distribution-agnostic way.

Suggest another distribution-agnostic mailing list or forum for asking
what amounts to "which is the best distro for Postfix to run on with
the least troubles".  That can't be a distribution-specific mailing
list or forum.


> No, it includes specific incompatibilties or things you might need to be
> aware of.
> Note that for the purposes of such documentation, "Linux" is one OS.

Realities are that distributions do differ, sometimes nearly as much
as BSD vs. Linux vs. Solaris, etc.


> No, dovecot is an IMAP server with SASL capabilities.
> Neither involve postfix directly.

When they fail to work together, tell me specifically which is at
fault.  Or maybe you expect the poster to figure out the problem
before asking.


> There was, simply, no postfix-specific question in your post.
> I could replace every mention of the word "postfix" with "emacs", and it
> would come out exactly the same.

I take it you believe that when asking about the relationship between
component A and component B, one should never assume that it is ever
specific to either component A or component B, which then leaves one
in a gap where no one in component A or component B support cares to
answer (if they are like you are).

So what was my question specific to, if not Postfix?  It certainly was
not specific to any distro.  Postfix was the common element.

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:40, markus reichelt <[hidden email]> wrote:

> ALso, I can only stress what has been said already: get your distro
> shit together; go along with your hunch about slackware, ask
> slackware specific questions on a slackware mailinglist/usenet group,
> and post postfix problems (which you researched yourself but couldnt
> solve on your own) in here.

If one asks "How well does Postfix perform on Slackware" ... on a
Slackware list/forum ... better hope Jeroen isn't on that list/forum.

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Re: distribution issues with Postfix

N. Yaakov Ziskind
Phil Howard wrote (on Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 12:10:39PM -0400):

> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:40, markus reichelt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > ALso, I can only stress what has been said already: get your distro
> > shit together; go along with your hunch about slackware, ask
> > slackware specific questions on a slackware mailinglist/usenet group,
> > and post postfix problems (which you researched yourself but couldnt
> > solve on your own) in here.
>
> If one asks "How well does Postfix perform on Slackware" ... on a
> Slackware list/forum ... better hope Jeroen isn't on that list/forum.
>
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(I've installed PF on half a dozen Ubuntu boxes, with no hiccups
significant enough to remember.)

What I would say is that the differences between distros only involve
setup and maybe maintenance, and do not involve performance, so that
utlimately, what extra effort there is is only pocket change to
sysadmins.

Now, if someone would come forward with a claim that, "PF runs 10%
slower/faster etc. on RH vs. Suse", I'm sure the list maintainers would
be ALL over it.

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